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Peter Tessier
Joined: 10.11.2011

May 14 @ 10:38 AM ET
Peter Tessier: Game 2 WC Final- Jets expect more from Vegas Jets look to follow up on strong game one performance tonight.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 14 @ 10:50 AM ET
This blog is offensive. I am going to dox you on twitter now...
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 14 @ 12:01 PM ET
Put your foot on there throats Winnipeg! Go in for the kill, don't even let em up for air!
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
Jumbo spiritual leader? OK, he has the guru beard for it I guess but he is slow as molasses in January. Wasn't he a healthy scratch? Doesn't matter, he would not be able to keep up with Vegas and their speed anyway. San Jose and LA are slow and old so Wpg is a new problem.

Jets need to keep disrupting their breakouts, clog up the middle, get traffic in front of Fleury and skate, skate skate!!! Did I mention skate?

Let Reaves take dumb penalties, hopefully the goon doesn't hurt any Jet players with his limited goon role. I totally disagree with Don Cherry on why Pittsbrugh didn't win "because Reaves wasn't there". Reaves wasn't there last year or the year before so Don Cherry is out to lunch there. Reaves is the last of the goons. Hopefully he doesn't injure anyone because that's all he is good for at this point.

Vegas will come out hard, they drank the cult Koolaid and they are going to follow Gallants plan to a tee. It will be a battle for sure.

It looks like Little is the only Jet not skating this morning so Enstrom is OK?? I Hope he is OK!!

Go Jets Go!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Jets came out flying in the first game. Hope that flight path only gets higher this point going forward.

GO JETS GO!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
Jumbo spiritual leader? OK, he has the guru beard for it I guess but he is slow as molasses in January. Wasn't he a healthy scratch? Doesn't matter, he would not be able to keep up with Vegas and their speed anyway. San Jose and LA are slow and old so Wpg is a new problem.

Jets need to keep disrupting their breakouts, clog up the middle, get traffic in front of Fleury and skate, skate skate!!! Did I mention skate?

Let Reaves take dumb penalties, hopefully the goon doesn't hurt any Jet players with his limited goon role. I totally disagree with Don Cherry on why Pittsbrugh didn't win "because Reaves wasn't there". Reaves wasn't there last year or the year before so Don Cherry is out to lunch there. Reaves is the last of the goons. Hopefully he doesn't injure anyone because that's all he is good for at this point.

Vegas will come out hard, they drank the cult Koolaid and they are going to follow Gallants plan to a tee. It will be a battle for sure.

It looks like Little is the only Jet not skating this morning so Enstrom is OK?? I Hope he is OK!!

Go Jets Go!

- CharlieDog


that's a little harsh on Reaves. After 2005 all the goons became better skaters and have progressively put more time into skills other than fisticuffs. Apparently there are a few GM's out there who see enough in Reaves game to merit paying him.

His play and presence this series has already become somewhat of a distraction to the benefit of Vegas. After a game one that was lopsided (at least for a period) it is helpful for Vegas to have Reaves be part of the conversation: it indicates concern about his physical play, deflects criticism from stars, wears on Jets' health in what Vegas hopes will be a long series and of course promises a response for any physical liberties taken by Jets against Vegas scorers whether legal or illegal.

It's up to Reaves now to prove that there is sufficient benefit left for keeping a roster spot available for a tough guy.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 14 @ 3:31 PM ET
that's a little harsh on Reaves. After 2005 all the goons became better skaters and have progressively put more time into skills other than fisticuffs. Apparently there are a few GM's out there who see enough in Reaves game to merit paying him.

His play and presence this series has already become somewhat of a distraction to the benefit of Vegas. After a game one that was lopsided (at least for a period) it is helpful for Vegas to have Reaves be part of the conversation: it indicates concern about his physical play, deflects criticism from stars, wears on Jets' health in what Vegas hopes will be a long series and of course promises a response for any physical liberties taken by Jets against Vegas scorers whether legal or illegal.

It's up to Reaves now to prove that there is sufficient benefit left for keeping a roster spot available for a tough guy.

- 2.0


Who cares about Reeves anyways. The guy who really impressed me as tough to play against, and who can really deliver some hits, is Deryk Engelland. He would be the G Knights closest thing to Buff.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
Who cares about Reeves anyways. The guy who really impressed me as tough to play against, and who can really deliver some hits, is Deryk Engelland. He would be the G Knights closest thing to Buff.
- jetsnation


Sorry 2.0, good debate but I don't care either. Reaves only has one role anymore and it is not to do anything positive like fore-check, scoring, kill penalties, etc. He is one dimensional only at this point and his type of role is in the rear view mirror like Sesito goon from the Pittsburgh organization. Reaves is more a hockey player than Sesito, but I don't care anyways.

Go Jets Go!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 14 @ 4:59 PM ET
Who cares about Reeves anyways. The guy who really impressed me as tough to play against, and who can really deliver some hits, is Deryk Engelland. He would be the G Knights closest thing to Buff.
- jetsnation


I think Engelland's overall play compares more evenly with Chiarot. He (Engelland) seems to be one of those guys that finds himself playing on winning teams - I guess sooner or later I may have to give him more credit for his play, but at this point if they are depending on him I say bring it on. He has reached his ceiling.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 14 @ 5:06 PM ET
Sorry 2.0, good debate but I don't care either. Reaves only has one role anymore and it is not to do anything positive like fore-check, scoring, kill penalties, etc. He is one dimensional only at this point and his type of role is in the rear view mirror like Sesito goon from the Pittsburgh organization. Reaves is more a hockey player than Sesito, but I don't care anyways.

Go Jets Go!

- CharlieDog


I didn't start the Reaves talk - it was from Tessier and your earlier quote - obviously someone cares enough to talk about him.

I am not convinced there is room on a winning team for a goon with marginal NHL playing skills. I will re-iterate that he has already been a distraction (distraction helps Vegas as underdog/visitor/team behind in series) and also that Reaves himself needs to prove that what he does for team merits a roster spot.

Like it or not, as refs swallow their whistles he may end up with bigger roll in the series.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 14 @ 6:57 PM ET
I think Engelland's overall play compares more evenly with Chiarot. He (Engelland) seems to be one of those guys that finds himself playing on winning teams - I guess sooner or later I may have to give him more credit for his play, but at this point if they are depending on him I say bring it on. He has reached his ceiling.
- 2.0


Kulikov is also known for laying out the hits especially in open ice. I think that his name might come up much more often as we go forward in the series. Word is that he is fully healthy and ready to play. Maurice, however, is not about to toy with a winning lineup and so he sits for now. No doubt Chariot is well aware his spot is in jeopardy should he have a bad game. If Toby needs a rest then Kulikov may also hear his name called. The good thing is the Jets D are very deep right now with available talent who are all ready to go at a moments notice.
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 14 @ 8:44 PM ET
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 8:55 PM ET

- nayefj

2-0 good guys
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 14 @ 9:24 PM ET
2-0 good guys
- Iggysbff


It doesn't matter that great of a deal to me who makes it out of these two teams. It'll be a great story either way, though I'm leaning more towards the Jets for some inexplicable reason.

Maybe because it's one of the few exciting things to ever happen to that poor burg.

Though I'm also holding out hope that this might actually increase the value of the Canadian dollar and maybe there'll be a Quebec NHL team finally.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 9:28 PM ET
It doesn't matter that great of a deal to me who makes it out of these two teams. It'll be a great story either way, though I'm leaning more towards the Jets for some inexplicable reason.

Maybe because it's one of the few exciting things to ever happen to that poor burg.

Though I'm also holding out hope that this might actually increase the value of the Canadian dollar and maybe there'll be a Quebec NHL team finally.

- nayefj

I don’t really care either. Though I’ll be in Vegas in a couple weeks and wouldn’t mind catching a game in the finals if they make it.
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 14 @ 9:47 PM ET
I don’t really care either. Though I’ll be in Vegas in a couple weeks and wouldn’t mind catching a game in the finals if they make it.
- Iggysbff


I've been living in DC for 4 years (though I keep wishing I was back in Colorado approximately every 2.5 days), and it would be epic to see the Capitals get to the finals and/or win them. Especially since a lot of my coworkers are long-suffering fans with whom I've had conversations about the Caps' past two seasons. These people are thirsty as poop.

I probably won't be able to afford to go to a finals game, but having that energy around would be excellent.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 9:56 PM ET
I've been living in DC for 4 years (though I keep wishing I was back in Colorado approximately every 2.5 days), and it would be epic to see the Capitals get to the finals and/or win them. Especially since a lot of my coworkers are long-suffering fans with whom I've had conversations about the Caps' past two seasons. These people are thirsty as poop.

I probably won't be able to afford to go to a finals game, but having that energy around would be excellent.

- nayefj

Yeah I hope they make the final. Wouldn’t be too upset if they won.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 14 @ 10:52 PM ET
No bounces for the Jets tonite. Three mistakes, three goals. Vegas capitlized on the give aways and mistakes and Fleury got some good bounces. This game might have to be a flush and move on.

I don't think Armia can keep up skating with Vegas as he did not look too good tonite. I thought he was a step behind. Time for Roslovic?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 14 @ 11:01 PM ET
No bounces for the Jets tonite. Three mistakes, three goals. Vegas capitlized on the give aways and mistakes and Fleury got some good bounces. This game might have to be a flush and move on.

I don't think Armia can keep up skating with Vegas as he did not look too good tonite. I thought he was a step behind. Time for Roslovic?

- CharlieDog

Please. Vegas wasn’t just lucky here. They took it to the Jets from puck drop.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

May 14 @ 11:19 PM ET
Please. Vegas wasn’t just lucky here. They took it to the Jets from puck drop.
- Iggysbff

IDK what game he was watching... No bounces for the Jets?

The Knights hit 3 posts and the Fleury goal was basically a gift...
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 15 @ 7:36 AM ET
Anyone who is just happy that Perreault has come back and instantly improved our possesion numbers and ballance through four lines should also hope for a little more help on the score sheet. Breaking even every game on the score sheet against whatever line you are playing may look great to anylitics folks but we could also use a goal Here and there. Just saying.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 15 @ 9:05 AM ET
Please. Vegas wasn’t just lucky here. They took it to the Jets from puck drop.
- Iggysbff


agreed - Vegas was good. Jets won the first 10 minutes with nothing to show for it and Vegas did what they had to do the rest of the way. Either team could have had a few more. Vegas first line beat Jets first line last night, the only secondary scoring was Tatar. Hellybuyck didn't look right from the very start, and never really did get on track. Fleury wasn't great either - had about 4 get behind him but not go in - but he didn't break.

I liked Myers, Connor, Wheeler and not much else. Connor was skating well and delivered more than expected from a rookie.

The goal after the Stasny giveaway was a gong show. Little (otherwise had a good game) played it back to Enstrom from the blueline without clearing the zone to put Vegas back on the forecheck, Enstrom didn't make a clean play on the second breakout attempt, puck cycled, giveaway by Stasny and goal.

The team has to recognize that Vegas stacked the red line when Connor was trying to move to get it deep - bad line change - probably should have taken the icing.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 15 @ 9:09 AM ET
I am not advocating for this but by the letter of the law the Tatar goal may have been goalie interference because Tatar's stick obstructed Helly's stick from making a play on the puck. Tatar pushed through it to gain possession and score.

Good non-call - it was a good goal. Just another place where goalie interference rule has room for an inconsistency. (it was a good hockey goal - no dispute except by the letter of the current rule)
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 15 @ 9:13 AM ET
Anyone who is just happy that Perreault has come back and instantly improved our possesion numbers and ballance through four lines should also hope for a little more help on the score sheet. Breaking even every game on the score sheet against whatever line you are playing may look great to anylitics folks but we could also use a goal Here and there. Just saying.
- Ross77


A goal would help from Perreault or Ehlers. I thought Armia was invisible last nite and a step off. I think Roslovic needs to get into a game for speed and skill.

Three breakdowns, three goals. Enstrom didn't get the puck out on goal one, Jets were changing, they batted it around and no one could clear, lucky 1st goal but it counts. I think the Sun labelled another Jet with the responsibility of goal one but it started with Enstrom firing the puck back in around the boards in our end on the right side and then we could not regain possession in our end.

Second goal, Connor loses it and the Jets are changing, in the net and the third goal, Trouba plays the man and opens up for a 2 on 1.

Not fingering players for blame, the point is Vegas had three good opportunities from mistakes and a turnover and they capitalized on them. Both teams had some posts, a bounce here or there our way and its possibly a different story. But, Vegas skated. We only saw them three times this year and they are fast, don't stop working and drank Gallants koolaid.

Jets will bounce back on the road!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 15 @ 10:00 AM ET
A goal would help from Perreault or Ehlers. I thought Armia was invisible last nite and a step off. I think Roslovic needs to get into a game for speed and skill.

Three breakdowns, three goals. Enstrom didn't get the puck out on goal one, Jets were changing, they batted it around and no one could clear, lucky 1st goal but it counts. I think the Sun labelled another Jet with the responsibility of goal one but it started with Enstrom firing the puck back in around the boards in our end on the right side and then we could not regain possession in our end.

Second goal, Connor loses it and the Jets are changing, in the net and the third goal, Trouba plays the man and opens up for a 2 on 1.

Not fingering players for blame, the point is Vegas had three good opportunities from mistakes and a turnover and they capitalized on them. Both teams had some posts, a bounce here or there our way and its possibly a different story. But, Vegas skated. We only saw them three times this year and they are fast, don't stop working and drank Gallants koolaid.

Jets will bounce back on the road!

- CharlieDog



I don't think the game and loss is any real cause for concern. Jets were quite dominating for most of the second and third periods but just could not capitalize. Vegas was very good with their sticks in the defensive zone as well as their tight coverage of the center of their zone.

Enstrom once again did not look great out there. He is starting to really get bashed around and furthermore, the G. Knights are not afraid to send it to his side because they know they will not get punished on the dump and chase like they would if they dumped it into Buff's corner. It's quite noticeable and I'm not against Poolman playing a game in his place and seeing if we fare better.

On the Trouba giveaway I also though Morrissey ( who usually makes the correct play) should have never dived at the puck carrier when he was way out on an angle anyways. Just cover the front of the net and let Helle do his job on an angled shot.

Connor was awesome. Also nice to see Laine hitting out there.

Finally, I really think that some of the bigger Jets should lay the body on Marchessault and Karlsson as much as possible and wear these guys down. They are the two guys who really make a difference on Vegas so go after them ! I think Karlsson may already be nursing some sort of injury so it wouldn't take much.
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